CLOSED: [2017-04-23 Sun 12:39] :PROPERTIES: :ID: 2017-04-23-wunderlist :CREATED: [2017-04-23 Sun 12:05] :END: :LOGBOOK: - State "DONE" from "NEXT" [2017-04-23 Sun 12:39] :END: Think about following situation: - Must-have requirements: - Maintaining a shopping list with my girlfriend. - Easy to use for my girlfriend (who is not a geek). - Fast capture process of new todos. - The data is synchronized between her Android phone and mine. - Nice to have requirements: - An easy to use web interface or a desktop client which runs on GNU/Linux. - Reminders - Adding meta-data such as text, images, URLs - Some kind of bridge to [[id:tags-emacs][Org-mode]]. - Encryption and/or privacy *** Wunderlist I started a testrun with [[https://www.wunderlist.com/][Wunderlist]] a bit more than a week ago. It is a cloud-based service with a neat web front-end and a really nice Android app. Tasks can be shared and synchronized among other Wunderlist users and different devices running Wunderlist. There is even [[https://github.com/myuhe/org-wunderlist.el][basic support for synchronizing Emacs Org-mode with Wunderlist]] where I found an annoying charset/encoding issue I planned to fix myself. All my must-have and all my optional requirements are met. Looked like a promising approach. A couple of days ago, I read a [[https://www.heise.de/ix/meldung/Zunaechst-als-Preview-Microsofts-To-Do-vom-Wunderlist-Team-3688744.html][German article about Wunderlist]]. The article informed me that Wunderlist [[https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-uebernimmt-Berliner-Startup-6Wunderkinder-2678017.html][was acquired by Microsoft in 2015]]. It also summarized an [[https://blogs.office.com/2017/04/19/introducing-microsoft-to-do-now-available-in-preview/][announcement of Microsoft]] that they are introducing a new service called «[[https://todo.microsoft.com/][To-Do]]» and that Wunderlist will be discontinued. Another cloud-based app which died. Too bad, that I was investing my time on that one. I should have done more research beforehand. I should have stick to my paradigm to [[id:tags-cloud][avoid the cloud]]. Even I do have to painfully learn (again) that a cloud-based, centralized service is not something you can count on on the long run. The «long run» this time: a lousy week. *** Org-Mode Based Approach :PROPERTIES: :END: Instead of looking for a different cloud-based alternative such as «To-Do», I am now evaluating a promising DIY-method which involves [[http://www.orgzly.com/][Orgzly]] (Android), [[https://syncthing.net/][SyncThing]] and of course [[id:tags-emacs][Emacs/Org-mode]] (desktop). This approach is totally decentralized and runs on Open Source software using end-to-end encryption. All must-have requirements are met except the capture process which could be slightly simpler. The optional requirements are met with exception to mobile reminders. The direct integration in Org-mode is a big plus to me. I'll blog about my expiriences later on. Note 2017-04-25: Irreal mentioned [[http://irreal.org/blog/?p=6164][this blog article on its page]].